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BBondsBootlaces 6:02 Thu Aug 17
Sarina Wiegman could she adapt to the mens game?

Seems like a great manager. Could she adapt to the men's game?

zico 7:45 Fri Aug 18
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Maybe it's time for a Battle of the Sexes. Charity game at Wembley England Men against England Women. If England women win Wiegman gets Southgate's job, if she wants it!

The Mercernary 6:27 Fri Aug 18
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Does the prize money not go the competing country's Football Association?

stewie griffin 6:17 Fri Aug 18
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"This World Cup generated over $570m (£447m) in revenues, and so we broke even,"

Men's tournament generated $6.3 billion.


So the women's prize pool is 15.7% of the revenue generated
The men's is 7%


A somewhat inconvenient truth in the equal pay debate.

BRANDED 5:22 Fri Aug 18
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"This World Cup generated over $570m (£447m) in revenues, and so we broke even," said Infantino.

"We didn't lose any money and we generated the second highest income of any sport, besides of course the men's World Cup, at a global stage."

There remains a huge discrepancy in prize money between the men's and women's tournaments, with the record $110m (£86.1m) for this World Cup some way short of the $440m (£346m) on offer to teams at last year's men's finals in Qatar, where 3.4m fans were in attendance.

"Equal pay in the World Cup? We are going in that direction already," said Infantino.

"But that would not solve anything. It might be a symbol but it would not solve anything, because it's one month every four years and it's a few players out of the thousands and thousands of players.

"We need to keep the momentum."

stewie griffin 5:03 Fri Aug 18
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I'm sure that Suzanne WRACK will happily donate the required amount of her salary to ensure that the journalist of her local paper gets paid the same amount that she does.

Lee Trundle 4:43 Fri Aug 18
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Seeing as I'm feeling generous, you can bump it up to £75k a year due to inflation.

Lee Trundle 4:42 Fri Aug 18
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The women's transfer record is £400k. They're 50 years behind the men's game financially.

Around the same time, Alf Ramsey was paid £7200 a year when he was England manager. Pay her that.

kylay 4:23 Fri Aug 18
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/aug/17/sarina-wiegman-gareth-southgate-england-fa-womens-world-cup

This is the kind of thing that really fucks me off. The reason she's not being paid the same is due to the fact the women's game doesn't generate near the revenue that the men's game does. Fair or not that's a fact. There's nothing preventing her from applying for Southgate's position, so if she wants to be paid the same, go get it.

Bondholder 12:53 Fri Aug 18
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Rather have her than Moyes.

Pentonville 12:44 Fri Aug 18
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The only help she could offer is hand relief in the showers to those players getting a bit over stressed.
Look how that physio at Chelsea worked out. Shagged half the team.

Lee Trundle 12:27 Fri Aug 18
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I shouldn't be so lazy and clicked on to page 2, Crassus! ;-)

Crassus 12:24 Fri Aug 18
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Lee

So it maybe
But the question was answered yesterday too
Utterly predictable

Lee Trundle 12:20 Fri Aug 18
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https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/38207135/fa-consider-wiegman-southgate-england-successor

It's a click bait article, as the quotes were made almost 2 years ago. Still made me chuckle, though.

Alfs 5:17 Fri Aug 18
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No offence taken, Eerie. But my point is that women can handle egotistical and highly paid men - and their agents.

The only thing we are generally better than women at is physical strength. You don't need that to manage a football team.

Eerie Descent 1:13 Fri Aug 18
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Alfs 12:36 Fri Aug 18

No offence Alf, but execs in the TV world will have a massively different 'management' role to Premier League football managers.

Eerie Descent 1:08 Fri Aug 18
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Do they call for a national Bank Holiday after a cracking game between a couple of local rugby sides?

Capitol Man 1:05 Fri Aug 18
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360 - that is a fair point - same as whether a lower league manger could make the leap to a top side and manage the relative tactics and personalities. An unknown right now but it certainly wouldn't be easy.

Capitol Man 12:58 Fri Aug 18
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Does it need to be the same standard to be a worthwhile and entertaining sport though, because there are some cracking games that go on in sports at all levels, from the championship down to non-league, to local rugby sides and whathaveyou. Not as good as the peak of the game but entertaining as a spectator nevertheless.

Yes the achievements are relative and not absolute in comparison to then men's game but it has, for example, only just gone professional in most countries and in some not at all and probably never will.

We need to be a little less sensitive about it all and ironically to grow a pair and stop the bleating about how very dare they compare the mens and women's games or players and enjoy England having a bit of success. I don't really see them putting out mixed sides any time soon.

threesixty 12:49 Fri Aug 18
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I think the strategies and tactics that you use in football do not translate at different standards of the game. What Pep has to deal with and work out is not what a championship manager or non-league manager has to deal with.

For example, getting multi millionaire adults to listen to you and do what you say is pretty hard. Literally very few people in sport can do it. Thats a psychology thing that has nothing to do with how much you know about football.

Then you have the actual abilities at different levels mean you can't employ the same tactics throughout the sport. If you're in league 1 and people can't control and pass accurately you're not going to introduce tiki-taka possession football etc.. In women's football the keepers are pretty crap (goals too big?) so the strategy of shooting from distance any time you get a sniff might work there but not at PL level.

But I suppose if she was less hands on and allowed her assistants to coach the details and she was literally about high level strategy and picking players then maybe that works.

But I think coaches/managers are much more than that and always have been. To be so aloof as a coach you have to proved yourself being pretty hands on at some point and I just dont think most women would have been able to pick up that kind of experience in the mens game at the moment.

I'd love to see it though, Would be fascinating.

JAC 12:47 Fri Aug 18
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Lets be honest ,womens football is shit.

Alfs 12:36 Fri Aug 18
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In the TV world most of the execs are women these days and I prefer working under them than their male counterparts. I put it down to less ego.

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